[QUOTE="Blabadon"]Damn it BPooleninjapirate2000Haha Also IGN gave the ps3 version an 8.5 and 360 version an 8.9 O.o
Sounds like Bayonetta syndrome
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Haha Also IGN gave the ps3 version an 8.5 and 360 version an 8.9 O.o[QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"][QUOTE="Blabadon"]Damn it BPooleSagem28
Sounds like Bayonetta syndrome
na no where near from what iv seen and heard. Only major difference in performance is in the cutscenes themselves 360 runs a bit smoother in that regard. It doesint really affect core gameplay.
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[QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"] Haha Also IGN gave the ps3 version an 8.5 and 360 version an 8.9 O.ofinalfantasy94
Sounds like Bayonetta syndrome
na no where near from what iv seen and heard. Only major difference in performance is in the cutscenes themselves 360 runs a bit smoother in that regard. It doesint really affect core gameplay.
Well, thats good to hear.
Damn PS3 multiplats.
There is a major difference between Metroid Prime, and Ninja Theory's devil may cry in terms of quality and impact.I wonder how Metroid fans were when Nintendo announced Metroid Prime being developed by Retro Studios (when they were new and unproven developers) instead of Sakamoto?
FireEmblem_Man
RE4 got high praise and it kinda killed the series for me and some others but I still admit its still a good game on its own right. Just dont see why dmc guys cant do the same.
RE4 got high praise and it kinda killed the series for me and some others but I still admit its still a good game on its own right. Just dont see why dmc guys cant do the same.
finalfantasy94
RE4 was a complete turnabout that embraced the action RE has always had. It then used some Mikami Special #9 to polish the game to the nth degree.
DmC is not a complete turnabout. It's a reboot that scrapped everything fans came to know and love from the series. It did the exact opposite of RE4. It would've helped so much if this was a new IP.
[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]There is a major difference between Metroid Prime, and Ninja Theory's devil may cry in terms of quality and impact. Maybe. But who knows? It could go on to be regarded as a classic of the genre. Stranger things have happened.I wonder how Metroid fans were when Nintendo announced Metroid Prime being developed by Retro Studios (when they were new and unproven developers) instead of Sakamoto?
jg4xchamp
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]There is a major difference between Metroid Prime, and Ninja Theory's devil may cry in terms of quality and impact. Maybe. But who knows? It could go on to be regarded as a classic of the genre. Stranger things have happened. Not even remotely close to something that is plausible.I wonder how Metroid fans were when Nintendo announced Metroid Prime being developed by Retro Studios (when they were new and unproven developers) instead of Sakamoto?
DarkLink77
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Maybe. But who knows? It could go on to be regarded as a classic of the genre. Stranger things have happened. DarkLink77Not even remotely close to something that is plausible. Looking at the reviews, it doesn't seem unlikely. Glowing praise everywhere with just a few flaws, for the most part. You're comparing a game that absolutely killed it with critics, to a game thats hitting marks that most "good" games get by default. The praise here is that "hey guys it's DMC, it's still DMC, don't worry about it". Metroid Prime was don't worry about it, and HOLY SH1T THEY TOOK METROID BUT PUT IT IN THREE DIMENSIONS. Major differences. Nothing about Prime is compromised. It's Super Metroid, but a 3D take on it. DMC is compromised compared to the franchises standards for combat. It's good yes, but the series battle systems have usually been a lot deeper.
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RE4 got high praise and it kinda killed the series for me and some others but I still admit its still a good game on its own right. Just dont see why dmc guys cant do the same.
ChubbyGuy40
RE4 was a complete turnabout that embraced the action RE has always had. It then used some Mikami Special #9 to polish the game to the nth degree.
DmC is not a complete turnabout. It's a reboot that scrapped everything fans came to know and love from the series. It did the exact opposite of RE4. It would've helped so much if this was a new IP.
Im sorry dude its the same situation. I know you want it not to be cause you hate this dmc but it is. RE4 from pov of some RE fans got rid of some things limited ammo,atmospher. It basicly just change the camra and uped the action full blast. Though people still call it a good game in its own right which it is.
Except that was just bold face lying. Resident Evil 4 still had atmosphere. Not nearly the same exact atmosphere of the old games, but the notion that it wasn't an atmospheric game is an absurd statement that looks silly even under the "my opinion" excuse.atmospher.
finalfantasy94
Brad just gave it 5 stars.
To be fair, on paper, everything about Devil May Cry sounds like the tritest video game pap: a bloody war between angels and devils, endless hordes of demonic enemies straight from your favorite '80s heavy metal album art, and all of it punctuated by Scandinavian "hellektro" outfit Combichrist's thudding soundtrack. And then there's Dante, remade in the image of a club-kid layabout who's so sneeringly self-satisfied he defies any attempt you might make to identify with him. I pretty much went into the game consciously expecting to hate all of this, or at least view it as the sort of eye-rolling embarrassment video games are usually so good at delivering.
Then, oddly, I started feeling a guilty pleasure at how much I was actually enjoying the spectacle. Then later I gave up the guilt and just flung myself wholeheartedly into the cyclone of nonsense. I think it became easy to like Devil May Cry because it seems somewhat aware of itself; the game is so damncommittedto having fun with its absurdity, you can't help having fun along with it. Dante may be a smirking wiseass, but his lines are witty enough and delivered with so much panache, you quickly grow to like him anyway.Brad
http://www.giantbomb.com/dmc-devil-may-cry/61-32686/reviews/
Makes me want to rent it, at least. If someone who only played the first game loves it, maybe I could appreciate it too since I never gave a sh!t about any of those games.
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Did the reviewer ever play dmc3? I really wonder.
GD1551
Does it matter? DMC is a reboot, it's supposed to attract a new audience while appealing to the current one.
it really does when comparing series growth.especially considering dmc3 is the best in the series.
lol new DMC takes a shot at old Dante
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ninjapirate2000
The fact that a simple hair change makes him look 100x better is pretty sad.
"oh,it's gonna suck"
"OH it's gonna flop"
"oh,Dante's so emo & gay"
>_> fanboys..
Well,you're finally proven wrong!
:D
I won't get it,but mostly because there's no Wii U version.
I'm happy i can rub it in on their faces,though.
^_^
Except that was just bold face lying. Resident Evil 4 still had atmosphere. Not nearly the same exact atmosphere of the old games, but the notion that it wasn't an atmospheric game is an absurd statement that looks silly even under the "my opinion" excuse.[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
atmospher.
jg4xchamp
Ya know wat your right I went a but overbord on that statement. It has atmosphere just didint feel horror kind. Theres like 1 or 2 parts that it had it but thats about it.
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
Im sorry dude its the same situation. I know you want it not to be cause you hate this dmc but it is. RE4 from pov of some RE fans got rid of some things limited ammo,atmospher. It basicly just change the camra and uped the action full blast. Though people still call it a good game in its own right which it is.
Slashkice
It's not. RE4 switched from survival horror to action, but the end result is it ended up as the best third-person shooter around. If it gets any hate, it's because of the stylistic change, not because the mechanics aren't up to snuff. (though like champ, I disagree that the game lacked atmosphere)
DmC didn't switch genres. It's still a hack 'n slash except it doesn't reach the quality of the previous games.
Some can say RE4 isint as great as previous games in the series as you are saying DMC isint the same quality of previous games. How does that make the situation any different. Both games still changed but both still get recieved well at least criticaly wise.
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
Im sorry dude its the same situation. I know you want it not to be cause you hate this dmc but it is. RE4 from pov of some RE fans got rid of some things limited ammo,atmospher. It basicly just change the camra and uped the action full blast. Though people still call it a good game in its own right which it is.
finalfantasy94
It's not. RE4 switched from survival horror to action, but the end result is it ended up as the best third-person shooter around. If it gets any hate, it's because of the stylistic change, not because the mechanics aren't up to snuff. (though like champ, I disagree that the game lacked atmosphere)
DmC didn't switch genres. It's still a hack 'n slash except it doesn't reach the quality of the previous games.
Some can say RE4 isint as great as previous games in the series as you are saying DMC isint the same quality of previous games. How does that make the situation any different. Both games still changed but both still get recieved well at least criticaly wise.
Because with RE 4 you can make an argument that it changed genres. If you judge it as a horror game(ignoring my stance on the old RE games) fair enough it wouldn't hold up for a myriad of reasons. You judge it as an action game, and acknowledge that for all intents and purposes it is an action game(essentially the biggest complaint among the old RE guard), and its an excellent offering in that genre.[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
[QUOTE="Slashkice"]
It's not. RE4 switched from survival horror to action, but the end result is it ended up as the best third-person shooter around. If it gets any hate, it's because of the stylistic change, not because the mechanics aren't up to snuff. (though like champ, I disagree that the game lacked atmosphere)
DmC didn't switch genres. It's still a hack 'n slash except it doesn't reach the quality of the previous games.
jg4xchamp
Some can say RE4 isint as great as previous games in the series as you are saying DMC isint the same quality of previous games. How does that make the situation any different. Both games still changed but both still get recieved well at least criticaly wise.
Because with RE 4 you can make an argument that it changed genres. If you judge it as a horror game(ignoring my stance on the old RE games) fair enough it wouldn't hold up for a myriad of reasons. You judge it as an action game, and acknowledge that for all intents and purposes it is an action game(essentially the biggest complaint among the old RE guard), and its an excellent offering in that genre.Yea but isint one of the reasons DMC is being compared to older DMC games is well cause DMC is in the title. So RE4 follows the same path to be compared and judged because it shares the name of its previous outings. So it can be said it doesint go up to snuff with the other titles in its name in some arguments. Though judgeing it by its own merits its still a good game. Thats basicly what im trying to say here. Why cant DMC gamers do the same with this DMC and try to judge it by its own merits.
Because with RE 4 you can make an argument that it changed genres. If you judge it as a horror game(ignoring my stance on the old RE games) fair enough it wouldn't hold up for a myriad of reasons. You judge it as an action game, and acknowledge that for all intents and purposes it is an action game(essentially the biggest complaint among the old RE guard), and its an excellent offering in that genre.[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
Some can say RE4 isint as great as previous games in the series as you are saying DMC isint the same quality of previous games. How does that make the situation any different. Both games still changed but both still get recieved well at least criticaly wise.
finalfantasy94
Yea but isint one of the reasons DMC is being compared to older DMC games is well cause DMC is in the title. So RE4 follows the same path to be compared and judged because it shares the name of its previous outings. So it can be said it doesint go up to snuff with the other titles in its name in some arguments. Though judgeing it by its own merits its still a good game. Thats basicly what im trying to say here. Why cant DMC gamers do the same with this DMC and try to judge it by its own merits.
Because it's a hack & slash AND a DMC game, hence I has to be judged by DMC standard.Let me level with you here.Yea but isint one of the reasons DMC is being compared to older DMC games is well cause DMC is in the title. So RE4 follows the same path to be compared and judged because it shares the name of its previous outings. So it can be said it doesint go up to snuff with the other titles in its name in some arguments. Though judgeing it by its own merits its still a good game. Thats basicly what im trying to say here. Why cant DMC gamers do the same with this DMC and try to judge it by its own merits.
finalfantasy94
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Because with RE 4 you can make an argument that it changed genres. If you judge it as a horror game(ignoring my stance on the old RE games) fair enough it wouldn't hold up for a myriad of reasons. You judge it as an action game, and acknowledge that for all intents and purposes it is an action game(essentially the biggest complaint among the old RE guard), and its an excellent offering in that genre.
DMC4 to DMC is still going from a hack n slash to another hack n slash. It's still relatively the same games judged by the same genre standards and similar rulesets. I'd say it's more closer to comparing Halo Reach and Halo 4 than it is comparing Resident Evil Remake to Resident Evil 4rjdofu
Yea but isint one of the reasons DMC is being compared to older DMC games is well cause DMC is in the title. So RE4 follows the same path to be compared and judged because it shares the name of its previous outings. So it can be said it doesint go up to snuff with the other titles in its name in some arguments. Though judgeing it by its own merits its still a good game. Thats basicly what im trying to say here. Why cant DMC gamers do the same with this DMC and try to judge it by its own merits.
Because it's a hack & slash AND a DMC game, hence I has to be judged by DMC standard. That's a semi stupid way to look at it. DMC 3 is an excellent hack n slash game, but it's kind of unfair to hold it against any game to live up to that battle system.Let me level with you here.[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
Yea but isint one of the reasons DMC is being compared to older DMC games is well cause DMC is in the title. So RE4 follows the same path to be compared and judged because it shares the name of its previous outings. So it can be said it doesint go up to snuff with the other titles in its name in some arguments. Though judgeing it by its own merits its still a good game. Thats basicly what im trying to say here. Why cant DMC gamers do the same with this DMC and try to judge it by its own merits.
jg4xchamp
yea but wasint there still critics using the genra term survival horror when RE4 was reviwed and thus comparing it in that light?
Let me level with you here.[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
Yea but isint one of the reasons DMC is being compared to older DMC games is well cause DMC is in the title. So RE4 follows the same path to be compared and judged because it shares the name of its previous outings. So it can be said it doesint go up to snuff with the other titles in its name in some arguments. Though judgeing it by its own merits its still a good game. Thats basicly what im trying to say here. Why cant DMC gamers do the same with this DMC and try to judge it by its own merits.
finalfantasy94
yea but wasint there still critics using the genra term survival horror when RE4 was reviwed and thus comparing it in that light? Also capcom seems to keep labeling it as such. Just seems capcom doesint wanna admit the series has gone full action.
Initially, because that's what they got accustomed to all along, but I think over the years it's fairly become common practice to accept that RE 4 is a different direction genre wise as a whole.Ya know wat your right I went a but overbord on that statement. It has atmosphere just didint feel horror kind. Theres like 1 or 2 parts that it had it but thats about it.
finalfantasy94
MORIR ES VIVIR!
MORIR ES VIVIR!
That is far more terrifying than a zombie moan.
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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]
It's not. RE4 switched from survival horror to action, but the end result is it ended up as the best third-person shooter around. If it gets any hate, it's because of the stylistic change, not because the mechanics aren't up to snuff. (though like champ, I disagree that the game lacked atmosphere)
DmC didn't switch genres. It's still a hack 'n slash except it doesn't reach the quality of the previous games.
jg4xchamp
Some can say RE4 isint as great as previous games in the series as you are saying DMC isint the same quality of previous games. How does that make the situation any different. Both games still changed but both still get recieved well at least criticaly wise.
Because with RE 4 you can make an argument that it changed genres. If you judge it as a horror game(ignoring my stance on the old RE games) fair enough it wouldn't hold up for a myriad of reasons. You judge it as an action game, and acknowledge that for all intents and purposes it is an action game(essentially the biggest complaint among the old RE guard), and its an excellent offering in that genre.in this case it would be more like going from Counter Strike to Call of Duty. NT butchered that battle system and made it so casual is not even funny... No wonder people are liking it so much. People these days don't like games that require a little effort to learn before doing the awesome stuff.
Well, I'm not to sure if you get my point with that example since I don't play FPS but maybe should I change Counter Strike for Half-Life 2 or something?
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Ya know wat your right I went a but overbord on that statement. It has atmosphere just didint feel horror kind. Theres like 1 or 2 parts that it had it but thats about it.
ChubbyGuy40
MORIR ES VIVIR!
MORIR ES VIVIR!
That is far more terrifying than a zombie moan.
Yea cant agree there. Especially compared to hearing a crisom head. Though I will say that spiky monster in RE4 was well done. It looked and sounded terrifying. Cant remember what its called though.
I just watched the review and I gotta say it looks a lot better than Enslaved. I think I might give this game a try sometime.
Because with RE 4 you can make an argument that it changed genres. If you judge it as a horror game(ignoring my stance on the old RE games) fair enough it wouldn't hold up for a myriad of reasons. You judge it as an action game, and acknowledge that for all intents and purposes it is an action game(essentially the biggest complaint among the old RE guard), and its an excellent offering in that genre.[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
Some can say RE4 isint as great as previous games in the series as you are saying DMC isint the same quality of previous games. How does that make the situation any different. Both games still changed but both still get recieved well at least criticaly wise.
Gue1
in this case it would be more like going from Counter Strike to Call of Duty. NT butchered that battle system and made it so casual is not even funny... No wonder people are liking it so much. People these days don't like games that require a little effort to learn before doing the awesome stuff.
Well, I'm not to sure if you get my point with that example since I don't play FPS but maybe should I change Counter Strike for Half-Life 2 or something?
thats why bayonetta was recevied so badly...oh wait I mean dmc4 was recevied badly...oh wait. Come on man you know that statement is just a load and your just upset people are finding the game enjoyable.
Because it's a hack & slash AND a DMC game, hence I has to be judged by DMC standard. That's a semi stupid way to look at it. DMC 3 is an excellent hack n slash game, but it's kind of unfair to hold it against any game to live up to that battle system.[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
Yea but isint one of the reasons DMC is being compared to older DMC games is well cause DMC is in the title. So RE4 follows the same path to be compared and judged because it shares the name of its previous outings. So it can be said it doesint go up to snuff with the other titles in its name in some arguments. Though judgeing it by its own merits its still a good game. Thats basicly what im trying to say here. Why cant DMC gamers do the same with this DMC and try to judge it by its own merits.
jg4xchamp
That being said, I didn't expect a NT to top that lol, not in a million years the new DmC can be matched with DMC3 in term of combat department, but it should at least does some damage. In fact, Its combat doesn't even touch DMC4, let alone DMC3. The amount of journalists spouting BS about the amazing combat makes me sick.
That's a semi stupid way to look at it. DMC 3 is an excellent hack n slash game, but it's kind of unfair to hold it against any game to live up to that battle system.[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]
[QUOTE="rjdofu"] Because it's a hack & slash AND a DMC game, hence I has to be judged by DMC standard.rjdofu
That being said, I didn't expect a NT to top that lol, not in a million years the new DmC can be matched with DMC3 in term of combat department, but it should at least does some damage. In fact, Its combat doesn't even touch DMC4, let alone DMC3. The amount of journalists spouting BS about the amazing combat makes me sick.
I would understand if it was BS if they said it was deeper then lets say DMC3 but I havent ran into at all unless I missed something. Though calling it bs cause some reviews calling it slick,smooth and good in its own right seems a bit hostel.
There's nothing stupid about having a standard. In fact, having a hack & slash genre is a good enough reason for it to be compared to the best games in the genre out there. DMC3 is one of the best game in the combat system, but it's not impossible to top. I'm only interested in the Bloody Palace (which's done best in DMC4 and is where the combat shine the most), so yeah, couldn't care less about level design. Actually, my arguments were never strayed from the core combat, that's the only thing I'm discussing here.[QUOTE="rjdofu"]
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] That's a semi stupid way to look at it. DMC 3 is an excellent hack n slash game, but it's kind of unfair to hold it against any game to live up to that battle system.
DMC 4 might play better mechanically than DMC, but get real the level design in that game was pretty f*cking terrible. Dante himself just as far as I'm concerned didn't have nearly the same depth he had in DMC 3, and Nero felt like a character they didn't go all the way with because they were too afraid to leave Dante out of the game. Game recycled considerably, and showed a lot of aging aspects of DMC. There is a reason Bayonetta got a lot more love for just how much fresher its level design ideas felt in comparison to how DMC does business. Because on very basic levels it might as well be DMC with a slut.
Not to say that you should lower your bar for the battle system, of course not. I agree I'm underwhelmed in that regard. But I think it's unfair to the idea that there might not be other good game ideas here. And in that sense I'm at least semi interested to see how far Ninja Theory has come as they've always felt like a dev who sucks at gameplay, but should progressively get better.finalfantasy94
That being said, I didn't expect a NT to top that lol, not in a million years the new DmC can be matched with DMC3 in term of combat department, but it should at least does some damage. In fact, Its combat doesn't even touch DMC4, let alone DMC3. The amount of journalists spouting BS about the amazing combat makes me sick.
I would understand if it was BS if they said it was deeper then lets say DMC3 but I havent ran into at all unless I missed something. Though calling it bs cause some reviews calling it slick,smooth and good in its own right seems a bit hostel.
Ok I admit that was a bit of a stretch, possibly because I'm so biased against this game; gotta cool myself down somehow. lolPlease Log In to post.
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